Matthew, are we ready to go now?

We are definitely all set?

No, no, no, I've got to tell everybody this.

For those of you who don't know, who think Matthew is a sort of absolute podcast pro,

this is take two,

because just 30 seconds into take one,

his PC ran out of battery.

So I just want everyone to know that, you know,

behind the Sard,

there's a man who can occasionally slip up.

At least I'd add the sort of foresight to start the recording going. I was really delighted you picked up the mantle to do the podcasting for a change until I learned that you hadn't actually turned the recording on for your excellent interview.

Well, the hint was in the title.

Robin and I are back with another partner's chat.

And if you're listening to us on the day this is going to be released,

that will be Sunday 27th of December. Then chances are are I guess you're into your third day of post-Christmas stupor so whether

you are like David out for a run on your bike or like Nigel doing your running welcome back or

if you're just looking for a chance to drift off and a little snooze with us plugged into your

as well we don't mind that either.

But welcome back. And of course, if this is the first episode you're listening to,

then this is slightly different from our normal episodes. Most of the time, I'm talking to the

leaders and influencers in industry. But now and again, Rob and I like to have a chat and if we can

find Palo, bring him in and together mull over what we're seeing in the world around us.

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