Robin Loves a Tax Story
Optimist Economy
Kathryn Anne Edwards and Robin Rauzi
4.9 • 829 Ratings
🗓️ 8 April 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
The United States is more than 20 years into a tax experiment – an era of a cumulative $7 trillion in tax cuts. So, asks economist Kathryn Edwards, how’s that working out? Well, we have worsening income inequality and public faith in the tax system is cratering. Meanwhile every social policy is conceptualized as some kind of tax cut/credit. The question for our optimistic future is, are you ready for tax fairness if that means you don't get that deduction?
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Optimist Economy. I'm Catherine. I'm Robin. |
| 0:09.0 | On this show, we believe the U.S. economy can be better, and we talk about how to get there, |
| 0:13.2 | one problem and solution at a time. |
| 0:24.4 | First up is retcon. |
| 0:27.1 | Catherine, did you have any retcons this week? |
| 0:29.9 | We talked about Social Security, you might remember. |
| 0:36.3 | So my only retcon for Social Security is just to talk again about how awesome it is. |
| 0:46.9 | And if you love it, you're in good company with 95% of Americans who also really love Social Security, who take pride in Social Security. |
| 0:51.5 | And I went back and looked at more polling and some reports that have come out. |
| 1:11.6 | I mean, Social Security has so many decades of polling data that people can now do research on the history of Social Security polling. And one of the recent reports I read on it talked about how remarkably consistent in bipartisan and high Social Security's support is. And I mean, my only recant is just to say, like, isn't it great? Social Security polls better than any political candidate by a long way. |
| 1:16.6 | Ever. |
| 1:17.6 | It is more popular than every politician that has ever existed in the history of the United States. |
| 1:21.6 | And honestly, there's something really nice about that. |
| 1:25.6 | Just thinking about, like, you see these people on TV, or they pass these ridiculous laws or like they put these writers into bills and you're like, man, you know what? You'll be dead and Social Security will still be here. |
| 1:39.7 | Which is a little dark, but I'm like... |
| 1:41.5 | That's a little dark optimism. |
| 1:43.2 | Hey, I'm doing my best. |
| 1:45.4 | Take it where you can get it. |
| 1:46.3 | Take it where you can get it. |
| 1:47.7 | Seriously. |
| 1:49.0 | So my recant, and I don't know how much of this will wind up in the final cup, |
| 1:54.0 | but we talked briefly about Mary McCarthy, who was the popularizer of the word Orwellian that Catherine had brought up last week. |
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