Robin Dreeke on Mickey Stines: Why Won't Anyone Say What Really Drove This Killing?
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🗓️ 12 January 2026
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
A lawsuit tying both men to a sexual exploitation scandal. A deposition that pushed Stines to the edge. And fifteen months of silence on motive.
Robin Dreeke knows how secrets work. He spent his FBI career studying compromise, leverage, and what happens when powerful people are entangled in something neither can afford to have exposed. This conversation goes where the headlines won't — into the pressure cooker that may have driven Mickey Stines to kill Kevin Mullins, and why nobody official is talking about why.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Bruske, Stacey Cole, and Todd Michaels. |
| 0:08.0 | There's a question hanging over the case. It still has not been answered, and that is why. |
| 0:12.7 | What made Mickey Stein's walk into Kevin Mullen's chambers that day? |
| 0:16.1 | No official motive has been released, but court documents point to something specific that civil lawsuit |
| 0:22.0 | accusing Stein's deputies of sexually exploiting inmates with allegations that some of the |
| 0:27.2 | misconduct happened inside Mullen's own chambers. Steins gave that deposition in the case just |
| 0:32.6 | days before the shooting. It was described as tense. And according to the fence, that's when |
| 0:37.3 | Stein started to |
| 0:38.5 | crack. Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent, former chief of the counterintelligence |
| 0:43.4 | behavioral analysis program here with us to help continue to break this down. The defense has pointed |
| 0:49.9 | to that civil lawsuit, specifically Stein's deposition for the catalyst of this breakdown. |
| 0:58.0 | What's your thoughts here in terms of how this sort of behavior manifests itself to go to this extreme? |
| 1:09.9 | Is this vigilante type work? |
| 1:13.8 | One, that's the thought process I think a lot of people had. |
| 1:17.3 | Is this control the narrative type work that's going on here? |
| 1:23.5 | Or, or, work is not the right word, but just use it for what it is. |
| 1:28.6 | Or is this, is this something, something else? |
| 1:32.9 | Others around him were saying, you know, he doesn't seem to be quite with it. |
| 1:38.2 | He seems to think some other extreme things are going on here, some delusions about his family, about his, having his wife being put into a bulletproof |
| 1:47.6 | vest, all sorts of crazy things. |
| 1:49.6 | I mean, what I guess on the outside we look at as crazy things. |
| 1:53.2 | But I do wonder, to a certain extent, because there is a lot of unhealthy behavior. |
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