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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Robert Wolf: Elon’s Adios, Biden Agonistes & The TACO That Ate Trump

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

John is joined by former CEO of UBS Americas and Democratic mega-donor Robert Wolf to discuss the exit of Elon Musk from the White House and Donald Trump’s latest economic-policy gyrations. The recipient of three presidential appointments from Barack Obama and one from Joe Biden, Wolf explains why Musk’s foray into government was always bound to end in tears; why Wall Street's TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out) meme perfectly captures the financial world’s view of the president's feckless approach to trade and tariffs; and why the state of the economy is even more precarious than it appears. Wolf also reflects on his own role in aiding and abetting Biden’s bid for reelection despite doubts about his ability to serve a second term. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:35.9

who's home to look after his daughters during their

0:40.3

holidays.

0:41.3

Hello!

0:42.3

To him, this is the best sound in the world.

0:44.3

Daddy!

0:45.3

Actually, maybe that's the best sound of all.

0:52.3

Now that's term time working.

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Offered at Amazon.

0:56.5

Ten weeks off guaranteed per year.

0:58.3

Mix of paid holiday and unpaid time off.

1:00.4

Conditions apply.

1:06.9

Aloha.

1:07.7

Amashtay everyone and welcome to Impolitic with John Heilman,

1:10.2

a puck and Odyssey joint featuring lively and in-depth conversations with the people who cruised corridors power in America, sculpting and shaping the ebb and flow of our politics and culture.

1:21.0

During the presidency of Barack Obama, Robert Wolfe occupied a unique position at the hugely important but always tricky to navigate and sometimes

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