On To the Point, we try to make sense of the policy debates and the political side shows on the campaign trail.

Ted Cruz wrapping the bacon around the semi-automatic weapon to cook it.

I understand that trade is not a sexy issue.

Nobody knows where the Republican Party is going to land.

I mean, it's kind of like a country road. No one knows where it will end.

In many ways, Marco Rubio is the Michael Jordan of American politics.

I'm Warren Alney.

To the Point has you covered for the 2016 campaign.

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From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's the treatment.

Thank you. Santa Monica and KCRW.com. It's the Treatment. Welcome to the treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. You probably ask yourself, what do

suicidal tendencies, infectious grooves, and Metallica have in common? Well,

they have in common, my guest, bassist, and film producer, Robert Trujillo, but they also

have something else in common with the band's Rush and the police and red hot chili peppers,

that they were all influenced by Jocko Pastorius. Robert is the producer and the writer of the documentary

Jock, which is directed by Stephen Kijak and Mr. Paul Marchand.

Robert, thanks so much for being here.

Thanks for having me, Elvis.

I have to tell you, I used to test girlfriends by giving them a copy of Jock, and if they didn't click with that album, it wasn't going to go anywhere right I mean I can still name the track listing from that side a you know right Donna Lee and come on come over the last

time Sam and Dave recorded together oh yeah and crew speak like a child and

portrait of Tracy and tell me about the first time you heard Jock the first time I

heard Jock would have been actually set 1978 or 77 a friend of mine who I used to play music with and at the time I didn't

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