Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode number 10 of the eavesdrop podcast. Today we have a very, very

special friend of mine and also someone who I admire. I know I'm, don't blush, okay?

Nothing makes me blush nowadays, right?

I, yeah, I guess.

So my brother from another brother, Rob Turcalaa one of the founders of U.M. Gugin, Gugin, right?

Yeah, Gugin, Gugin Squad.

Gugin Squad and U.M.G.

We'll talk a little bit about his entering into e-sports, his sort of departure from e-sports and then what he's doing now, but first

the foremost I would like to thank our sponsor for the podcast, first sponsor of our

marketing the history books, the first person, the first company that came in to sponsor the podcast is none other than Skillshire, which is an online learning community with more than 20,000 classes in design, photos, documentary, video, like you name it, they can teach it for you.

Okay?

The premium membership gives you unlimited access so you can improve your skills, unlock new opportunities to do the work that you love, essentially.

It's pretty much just a whole bunch of creators that come into one place and teach you how to do everything that you're passionate about.

Since Skillshare is sponsoring this video, the first 500... you're passionate about.

Since Skillshare is sponsoring this video, the first 500 people who subscribe and

signing up for this, okay, and the link is going to be in the description, you're

going to get the first two months free. I personally used it once and I used it for

iPhone photography. It gives you like good places to look for presets.

I mean if you see look at my photos on my Instagram

you know that it's Super Fire and that is why it is that you should you know give it a shot.

Anyway, again the first five hundred people to sign up for this will receive two month free trial.

If you go to SKL.sh. forward slash eavesdrop to start your trial now. Now, having that and with that said Rob welcome thank you for

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