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Robert Reich Saw This Coming

Lever Time

The Lever

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.8560 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Today on Lever Time, David Sirota speaks with Robert Reich, former Labor Secretary and economics professor, about what he’s learned from working in multiple presidential administrations, where he believes that American politics went wrong, and what the Democratic Party needs to do to save itself — and the country. Click here for more of this interview, in which Reich explains how the Baby Boomer generation failed America. You can check out Reich’s new memoir, Coming Up Short: A Memoir of My America, here.  Get ad-free episodes, bonus content and extended interviews by becoming a member at levernews.com/join. To leave a tip for The Lever, click here. It helps us do this kind of independent journalism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You're listening to the free ad-supported version of our podcast. For an ad-free experience,

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visit levernews.com slash upgrade. When Donald Trump was inaugurated like all presidents, he swore

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an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. Instead, Donald Trump has decided

0:16.9

to swerve, deflect, and append the Constitution and treat it like a terms and conditions

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constitutional scholar and a deeply neurotic comedian who thought the emoluments clause was a breakfast item.

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From The Lever's reader-supported newsroom, this is Lever Time.

1:25.0

I'm David Serota.

1:26.4

It's one thing to be an everyday American, feeling

1:29.4

the ripple effects of decades of bad decisions by your government. It's another thing to be

1:35.5

one of the people in the room where those decisions were being made. Robert Reich is one of those

1:41.5

people. He was a member of three presidential administrations,

1:45.0

including a stint as U.S. Labor Secretary. Reich is kind of like this Forrest Gump figure,

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