Welcome to the Eric Metax's show.

You know, sometimes Eric pretends to be interested in his guest.

But he's really just doing a crossword puzzle and rolling his eyes in what they say.

He told me never to say that ever.

But look, I made a mistake.

Oh, I'm human.

In my way.

Only I'm not.

And now you're a host, Eric Mataxis.

Hey there, folks.

Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

Have I got a guest for you?

This guest comes by way of recommendation from John Zmirak.

So I think you know what we're getting into here.

I have as my guest today, somebody who's the director of the Westminster Institute.

His name is Robert Riley.

He was with the Reagan White House.

Ten years ago, he wrote a book called The Closing of the Muslim Mind,

and he is out with a new book called America on Trial,

a defense of the founding published by Ignatius Press.

You know, I'm a big fan of Ignatius Press.

There's a foreword written by Larry Arne of Hillsdale, and here he is, Robert

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