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This is You Better You Bet, live from San Francisco on Westwood One Sports.

Here's your host, Nick Costos.

You Better You Bet, Westwood One Sports. Nick Costos here with you, San Francisco, California, the site.

Technically Santa Clara.

Yeah. We're in San Francisco now.

Yeah. That's the Super Bowl in Santa Clara, but Radio Row, thank God in San Francisco and not Santa Clara.

No offense.

Presented by BetMGM. My guess at this time, the first time that we've ever spoken on or off air, I am very pleased to welcome to you, better you bet.

And I said this to him, and it's the truth.

Now, Robert Mays is with us host of the athletic football show.

I purposefully, I am a gigantic sports fan, as our audience knows.

I purposefully do not listen or watch a ton of sports content outside of games because I want my stuff to be my stuff.

One of the only shows that I consume on a regular basis is the athletic football show with Robert Mays, Derek Classen, and Dave Hellman.

You guys do such an unbelievable job.

And when I said to you off air, I'll say it on air, kind of like seeing everything on field,

salary cap, draft, coaching staff.

I didn't know who Clayton Adams was until you talked about him.

Just as one example.

So I am a huge fan of you and your show. It's great to have you here on you better. How's it going? Happy Super Bowl Week. It's great to be here. I sincerely appreciate having me, and I'm incredibly flattered. I understand exactly that, where you're making content all the time. You don't always have the most time to consume other people's. And so the fact that we kind of fill that very small sliver for you means a lot. Do you feel like when you're doing that show, like, that you're nailing it the way that like I think a lot of your listeners do are the way that I do. No. I see, I find that to be, I think that's so interesting, like a personality right because I'll be'll be honest, I'm really critical of myself and my show, right?

I think most of the time we do a really good job. And I walk away from a lot of shows being like, man, like I nailed it today. And I'm pretty honest. If not, and like my producer will tell you, I'll call him and be like, we suck today. What can we do better? how is it possible that you don't think you guys are killing it? Because it's so obvious to me that you are.

I just think there's always a better version of it. There's always something you could do a little bit differently. I think that you watch something and I don't listen to a lot of stuff all the way through now, again, just because of bandwidth issues, but you'll see somebody make a point about something about subject that you were covering. and you're like oh man man, we kind of missed that angle on it. Like, me, there's just so much stuff out there. You always feel compelled to be doing things in a little bit clearer or a little bit more interesting of a way. And so I think that there's just like a consistent need to reach a standard that I don't know. I don't always feel that we do. And I think that's a hard way to move through the world because you're very rarely satisfied with everything that's going on. But I think ultimately it serves the quality of overtime. I want to ask you now, I wasn't going to bring this up, but something you just said in that answer, kind of like, if I'm thinking of like Samurai movie, right, like Act 3, the cost of greatness. And kind of like,

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