Robert Malone & Peter McCullough: A litany of untruths
Decoding the Gurus
Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne
4.2 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2022
⏱️ 197 minutes
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Summary
Matt and Chris return to the Joe Rogan-verse much quicker than they would have liked to take a critical eye to two recent episodes (6 more hours!!!) offering controversial takes on Covid 19 and the dangers of vaccines. Yes, that's right more fear mongering, more global conspiracies, and more unrecognised heroes of science that Joe needs to promote to his large audience.
In this case, we have Dr. Robert Malone, the *self-proclaimed* inventor of mRNA vaccines, and Dr. Peter McCullough, a cardiologist who was recently sued by his old hospital for using its name when promoting his covid theories. Both figures are well documented promoters of covid misinformation, including in various appearances on extreme right wing conspiracy sites like Alex Jones' InfoWars.
Matt and Chris are no medical experts nor do they play them on podcasts (if you are looking for a point by point technical/medical debunking, we would recommend following the links at the bottom of these show notes). But what they are very familiar with are modern gurus and conspiracy theorists. So in this episode, after twenty plus episodes of calibrating the Gurometer(TM) with known gurus, they take it for a new test with these two maverick doctors. Applying the well-developed science of Gurometry(TM) to a novel dataset. How do they fare? Guess...
Honestly, this is probably the darkest and most depressing episode we've done. It was not fun and we would really prefer to be talking about something else but here we are. Hopefully we will not be back soon...
Links
- The JRE 1757: Robert Malone
- The JRE 1747: Peter McCullough
- The Atlantic: The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation
- For Better Science: How Dr Robert Malone invented Antivaxxery
- Respectful Insolence: Is “mRNA vaccine inventor” Robert Malone “being erased from Wikipedia” for his claims about COVID-19?
- Respectful Insolence: Dr. Robert Malone goes full antivaccine conspiracist
- Respectful Insolence: The latest antivaxx lie from Peter McCullough, Mike Adams, and RFK Jr.: “COVID-19 vaccines are killing people!!!!”
- Politifact: Who is Robert Malone? Joe Rogan’s guest was a vaccine scientist, became an anti-vaccine darling
- Science Based Medicine: “Depopulation” by COVID-19 vaccines?
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You're going to. Hello. Hello and |
| 0:25.0 | welcome to Decoding the Guru's. |
| 0:27.0 | the podcasts were an anthropologist and a psychologist |
| 0:29.0 | listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer |
| 0:31.0 | and we try our best to understand what they're talking about. |
| 0:34.7 | I'm Professor Matt Brown and with me is my better half. |
| 0:37.5 | Chris or Christina as my wife likes to call him, Kavanagh. |
| 0:41.6 | Welcome,, Chris. |
| 0:43.0 | Abusive starts in 2021. |
| 0:46.0 | Wait, no, it's not 2021, is it? |
| 0:50.0 | It's a brand new year. |
| 0:52.0 | It's the 2022 series of Decoding the Guours. |
| 0:54.8 | The season that no one asked for, but is here. |
| 0:57.9 | We're big boys now, we're more than a year old, we've got a big boy pants on and that's appropriate because today |
| 1:06.8 | we are heading back to the world of the anti-vaxers, the biggest babies in the internet world. |
| 1:14.8 | I'm really looking forward to the end of COVID, and it's not for the reason that most people |
| 1:18.8 | are looking forward to it to be able to go on and live their lives and go traveling and stuff. I'm just looking forward to the end of COVID so that we could just stop hearing from these idiots and we can go back to talking about culture war, nonsense, like the good old days yeah they've got shaded down on campus |
| 1:37.5 | this week yeah those innocent days of your but I I agree it does seem somewhat great in the COVID age and I guess |
| 1:49.0 | mass galleries know that kind of thing lectures, imagine that. |
| 1:53.0 | But we weren't intending this map, we were going to look at Bob Wright, |
| 1:58.0 | but we've been forced by circumstance to get back into the Rogan verse. |
| 2:05.6 | You promised me, Robert Wright, you promised me someone just, you know, not Joe Rogin. Not talking to Joe Rogin. That was the |
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