Robert Lustig: "Processed Food, Metabolism, and The Ills of Society"
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
4.8 • 553 Ratings
🗓️ 3 May 2023
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Dr. Robert Lustig joins Nate to dive into the metabolism of the micro level of human systems - the humans ourselves. Over the last century, accompanying the transformation of our energy systems, our food and consumption patterns have been massively transformed. One of the biggest areas of change is the dramatic increase in sugar consumption. But are our bodies adapted to eating such high sugar, processed foods? What are the health effects connected to this way of eating? And, writ large, how does our metabolic dysfunction as individuals contribute to the energy hungry global Superorganism? What are the systemic drivers that currently prevent a shift towards healthier food systems? Can changing how we eat make us healthier - and thus better equipped to face the complex challenges of the metacrisis?
About Robert Lustig:
Robert H. Lustig, M.D., M.S.L. is Emeritus Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, and Member of the Institute for Health Policy Studies at UCSF. Dr. Lustig is a neuroendocrinologist, with expertise in metabolism, obesity, and nutrition. He is one of the leaders of the current "anti-sugar" movement that is changing the food industry. He has dedicated his retirement from clinical medicine to help to fix the food supply any way he can, to reduce human suffering and to salvage the environment. Dr. Lustig graduated from MIT in 1976, and received his M.D. from Cornell University Medical College in 1980. He also received his Masters of Studies in Law (MSL) degree at University of California, Hastings College of the Law in 2013. He is the author of the popular books Fat Chance (2012), The Hacking of the American Mind (2017), and Metabolical: The Lure and the Lies of Processed Food, Nutrition, and Modern Medicine (2021).
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins. |
| 0:06.3 | That's me. |
| 0:07.7 | On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, the environment, in our society. |
| 0:17.0 | Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's |
| 0:23.0 | eye view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it |
| 0:28.7 | as a society and as individuals. |
| 0:33.1 | Today's podcast was one of my favorite that I've ever done, possibly because it's on a topic I don't know a lot about, which is the metabolic health of humans as individuals and what our food system is doing to change our health relative to obesity, metabolic syndrome, etc. |
| 0:56.0 | My guest is Dr. Robert Lustig, who is a professor emeritus of pediatrics, |
| 1:03.0 | the division of endocrinology at the University of California and San Francisco. |
| 1:08.0 | He specializes in neuroendocrinology with an emphasis on the regulation of energy |
| 1:14.0 | balance by the central nervous system. You'll see during this podcast there is a mapping or a parallel |
| 1:21.6 | path of how our food system changes our individual behavior mapping on to the global energy hungry superorganism. |
| 1:30.4 | This was a fantastic conversation. |
| 1:32.9 | I look forward to hearing more about Rob's work and changing the food system. |
| 1:39.6 | I hope you enjoy this. |
| 1:54.8 | Hello, Rob. |
| 1:57.9 | Nate, my pleasure. |
| 1:58.9 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:59.8 | This is delightful. |
| 2:03.0 | Well, we have mutual friends, and it seems the world is converging on multiple threats and risks to the human predicament. |
| 2:10.2 | And I don't know a lot about your field, but I have read your book, Metabolical. I love the title. And it's heavily marked up. You've put a |
| 2:21.3 | lifetime of vertical and horizontal expertise and wisdom into this book. So my very first question |
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