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Robert Laughlin on the Future of Carbon and Climate

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🗓️ 9 August 2010

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Robert Laughlin of Stanford University and the 1998 co-recipient of the Nobel Prize in Physics talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about energy use and the future of the earth's climate. Drawing on his forthcoming book on energy, Laughlin predicts that we will continue to use cars and planes and electricity long after coal and petroleum are exhausted and speculates as to how that might play out in the future. The conversation concludes with discussions of other concerns of Laughlin's--the outlawing via legislation and taboo of certain forms of knowledge, and the practice of reductionism rather than emergence in the physical sciences.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty. I'm your host Russ

0:13.4

Roberts of George Mason University and Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

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Our website is econtalk.org where you can subscribe, find other episodes, comment on

0:24.5

this podcast, and find links to other information related to today's conversation.

0:29.9

Our email address is mail at econtalk.org. We'd love to hear from you.

0:35.5

Today is July 27, 2010, and my guest is Robert Laughlin, the anti and Robert M. Bass Professor

0:45.1

of Physics, and the 1998 co-recipient of the Nobel Prize in Physics. Bob, welcome to Econ Talk.

0:51.2

My pleasure.

0:52.2

You recently wrote an article in the American Scholar called What the Earth Nose. It's

0:58.1

an interesting title, but the cover of the issue had a more provocative title. The

1:02.6

Earth doesn't care if you drive a hybrid. That could be very disparaging to some people,

1:08.1

and it could be very encouraging to others. What was your argument?

1:11.6

The argument was that the scales of the Earth are so long that all it cares about is whether

1:18.6

you burn up all the coal and oil. It doesn't care whether you take 200 years to do it,

1:23.4

or 300 years to do it. If you're concerned about the Earth instead of yourself, you would

1:29.7

have to bring your carbon consumption down to zero on the scale of people. Whether that's

1:36.8

likely to happen is another conversation, but anyway, that's the answer to your question.

1:41.7

Should we worry about climate change based on your argument? What was the thrust on that

1:47.6

event?

1:48.6

Obviously, you should worry about climate change some. It's one of the many things you

1:56.6

have to worry about, of course, like keeping your job and making sure that your kids are

2:01.2

OK and making sure you've got enough money in bank for education and so forth. Sure,

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