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On today's Politics and More podcast, David Remnick talks with Robert Galucci about the Trump administration's

North Korea policy. Galucci was the United States as chief negotiator during the North Korean

nuclear crisis in 1994 and helped to craft the agreed framework that limited the country's nuclear

capabilities.

Recently, I had the chance to talk to some North Korean diplomats here in New York, and I asked them, who in our country understands North Korea best?

The person they pointed to was Robert Galucci.

Galucci is a retired diplomat, a scholar, and he was America's chief negotiator during the last big crisis over North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

That was in 1994, and Galucci's efforts then effectively froze their nuclear program for nearly a decade.

I wanted to talk to Galucci right now, more than 20 years later, because the situation with North Korea is, to say the least,

extremely concerning. Kim Jong-un's regime has launched a series of ballistic missile tests.

The Trump administration has responded with a successful anti-missile test of its own,

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