this episode of Skeptico.

Getting real about the big picture questions.

We have conquered science, medicine, technology, and the physical world.

We search for something greater beyond our understanding.

We search for the origin of the universe, the greatest conceivable existence.

And how the data from a variety of spiritually transformative experiences is staring us right in the face.

People who undergo these things are transformed in so dramatic ways.

How do you explain the fact that atheists now believe in

supreme beings after having these spiritual transformative experiences or dramatically changed

their opinions on major aspects of philosophical and personal life?

That first clip is kind of interesting. It's from the movie Proximity when

E.T. comes down looking for Jesus or just somebody who can tell them what the real story is.

And the second clip was from returning guest, the very excellent Dr. Robert Davis, who I believe

is really tapping into the keys of the kingdom when it comes to

understanding E.T. And that is understanding spiritually transformative experiences. This is kind of a

wide-ranging discussion, but I think it lands on a couple of really important points. I hope you

enjoy it.

Welcome to Skeptica, where we explore Controversia Science and Spirituality.

I'm joined today by Dr. Robert Davis.

Bob has been on the show a couple of times.

He's kind of a go-to guy for me because, well, a couple things.

One, he has just his stellar academic background, all the credentials, NIH grants, published peer-reviewed journals, all that stuff. And then he goes

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