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It's the Media Buzz Meter with Howard Kurtz.

This is the Media BuzzMeter podcast.

And my guest today is Robbie Suave, senior editor at Reason Magazine, who also co-hosts a show for The Hill.

And you do a lot of podcasts.

Now, do you think they're influential or is this

sort of a requirement of the digital age where everybody who's anybody kind of sort of has to

podcast? I think this is where media is just going in general. People's revealed preference

is for listening and watching content. Unfortunately,

instead of reading content, that's a major blow to the ego of all of us who thought we

were going to be writers. I mean, the trajectory of my own career over the last 20 years has

been to move from a lot of writing to a lot of commentating and video and audio. So I frankly

do think that's where it's going. The importance

is going to be preserving actual investigative journalism in an era where a lot of people just want

to hear guys talk for three hours. And, you know, I think that's a lot of fun. But we need.

So you're giving me my headline.

Obviously, Swave, abandons writing.

I guess so.

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