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The Mid•Point with Gabby Logan

Rob Rinder MBE

The Mid•Point with Gabby Logan

The Midpoint

Health, Menopause, Self-improvement, Fitness, Gabbylogan, Journal, Mentalhealth, Interview, Health & Fitness, Wellbeing, Personal, Advice, Mental Health, Education

4.31.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2023

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

From the U.N.’s International Court of Justice to the bejeweled Strictly ballroom at Blackpool, this week’s guest’s journey to the midpoint has been quite an extraordinary one. Gabby chats with barrister and broadcaster Rob Rinder MBE, ahead of the release of his debut novel The Trial. They talk about everything from why it’s important that we keep in mind the myriad of human reasons why people behave in the way they do, how forgiveness is sacred but is not the same as forgetting and how Rob lives in forgiveness even though his family were victims of the Holocaust, to why he can’t bear the “farting smugness” of some yoga classes and why he will forever be a match-maker and a romantic! Psychotherapist and best-selling author, Julia Samuel, also joins to offer an expert view on inherited trauma and behaviours, and practical ways to help you deal with that – which is the focus of her latest book Every Family Has A Story.


Julia mentions the work of Charles Duhigg around habit forming and you can find out more about his work here. The latest of Rob’s factual series, The Holyland and Us - Our Untold Stories, is also still available to watch on BBC iPlayer



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Hello and welcome back to the midpoint. I think this might be the first time we've had a

1:01.6

barrister on the show, but of course Rob Rinder is a lot more than that, including a regular host

1:06.2

on Good Morning Britain, and the star of ITV's long-running courtroom reality show Judge Rinder.

1:11.5

Rob is also a writer with a column in the London Evening Standard, and he's just released his debut

1:16.2

novel The Trial, which I can't wait to get my hands on. And after delving deep into his Jewish

1:21.2

family history, Rob has also created some very powerful documentaries, and we're going to be

1:26.2

joined by psychotherapist and best-selling author Julia Samuel to discuss how we inherit love

1:31.3

and loss the focus of her latest book. There is so much to discuss, not least, Rob's marathon

1:36.8

running and his views on romance in midlife. So let's get going.

1:41.4

Rob, it is really great to have you on the midpoint. I'll declare I'm a huge fan of what you do

1:56.6

on TV, and also how you've managed, I think, to be quite outspoken about the things that are

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