Hello and welcome to the Friday Bullard podcast I'm your host Tim Miller. It's the Friday show because we have a weekend

edition. The South Carolina primaries tomorrow and we've got a really special show coming

your way so check back tomorrow for that. I am delighted and honored to be here today with Rob Reiner. He directed, I don't know, you might have heard of when Harry met Sally, Princess Bride, or this is Spinal Tap. You might have seen a show called All in the Family. He is Meathead and now he is the co-producer of a documentary God and Country alongside Dan Partland, who's also with us, director of God and country. He also directed the film Unfit the Psychology of Donald Trump.

Gentlemen, welcome Dan, how did you survive getting inside the psychology of Donald Trump?

I'm still getting over it. It's part of you know it's part of my ongoing mission to

heal you know I made this film instead. That's good we've got a sponsor better help that you

might want to look into I got to tell you the one thing when I was watching the documentary that struck me at the beginning, and I'm sure I must have noticed it when it was happening live, that there was so much happening on January 6th, and in the context of this film about Christian nationalism the

flags the Jesus saves the Jesus King flags it really just hit me about how

intertwined the issues were of the insurrection in Christian

nationalism and so I was hoping you might start by talking about that a little bit.

Maybe Dan you can kick us off.

Sure, well, you know, it's definitely

goes all the way back to the genesis of the project,

which is that Rob had first contacted me

about doing a film about Christian nationalism

and just right before the holiday break in December of 2020.

And, you know, he passed me a book. I read it, power worshipers by Catherine Stewart. I read it over the break and we had plans to meet on I believe January 7th Zoom meeting.

And so on January 6th I was at my desk making notes about what you know a film about Christian nationalism would be about while I was watching the certification of the vote on the other screen.

So to me, had I not just spent the holiday break kind of doing as deep a dive as I could and

immersing myself in that space, I'm not sure I would have seen it either.

But what was notable was watching the TV coverage was how many images, symbols,

even, you know, a chance and prayers and things were evident there and how the commentary was not noticing it at all.

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