Procrastination is the symptom, but it's not the cause. It's like the downstream effect.

Say you have a friend, you go over to their house, and you've never been to his house before.

You've known him for like five years. You go over to his house and you walk into the garage and he's got these paintings. And they're just incredible. And you're like, oh my God, man. Like these are so good. I didn't know you paint, he's like, yeah, you know, like, it's a hobby of mine. And I'm like,

you ever thought about selling these? He's like, no, well, they're not perfect yet. I'm a perfectionist.

Not perfect yet. They could still, He's like, yeah, you know, like, it's a hobby of mine. And I'm like, you ever thought about selling these?

He's like, no, well, they're not perfect yet.

I'm a perfectionist.

They're not perfect yet.

They could still use a little bit of changing and all of that.

And what's really happening is it's not that they're not perfect. It's that he's afraid of something. So what he's afraid of is most likely not perfectionism, other people's judgment.

We're born creative. All of us have some sort of creativity that we love.

There's so many people in this world that are just... not perfectionism, other people's judgment. We're born creative. All of us have some sort of creativity that we love.

There's so many people in this world that are just creatively constipated,

where they have all of this creativity that's inside of them,

and we were put here to create.

In the eyes of the creative, we're literally a piece of God, and God creates.

And we're supposed to create as well.

And so many people just stop it because they're afraid of what other people think of them. Yeah.

Rob, we're here. We made it. We are. This is a big story. There's there's rolling for you about leveling up and there's a story about us here on planet Earth. Dude, it's like been the craziest story. Yeah. Since we podcasted last. Yeah. Give people like a 30 second update as to you rebranded. You used to be the Monday, Wednesday, Friday motivation. Yeah. That's how I knew you

back in the day. But now you're the mindset mentor. So give us like the skinny, the high level on that. So we both started. I think you started, when did you start in 2015? 2015. When though? What month was it? Do you remember? June. Okay. So you were June. I was August. And so we were both in Podcasts Paradise and I kind of met you through that. And you were already like in new and

noteworthy. So I was like, oh, this guy's doing it. He's doing

something well. Back in the day on iTunes. And it was, I wanted to be like as I try to try to make

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