Hey everybody. Before we start, Kathy and I just recorded this interview with our friend Rob Bell.

And I realized after we were done with the recording that I didn't do a good job introducing who this man was.

I know a lot of our audience knows who Rob is, but I'm sure some of you have no idea who Rob is.

So just to give you an idea, he's a New York

Times bestselling author. He's written 11 books. He's a speaker, former pastor of Mars Hill Bible

Church, and he's host of the Robcast, which is an amazing podcast that you should check out.

And he does many, many other things. We've known Rob for about four years since he was a speaker at our 2017 Zen Parenting

Conference. And just to give you an idea of his reach, Time Magazine actually named Rob on its list of

100 most influential people in the world.

And he's about to begin his Everything in Spiritual tour and will probably be coming to a town

near you very soon.

So without further ado, here's the interview we did with Rob and I hope you enjoy.

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Here we go.

My name's Todd.

This is Kathy.

Welcome back to another episode of Zen Parenting Radio.

This is podcast number 619.

Why listen to Zen Parenting Radio?

Because you'll feel outstanding.

And always remember our motto,

which is the best predictor of a child's well-being is a parent's self-understanding. On today's show, we have a very special guest, and that guest's name is, sweetie. It's Rob Bell. It's Rob,

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