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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Rob Bell and Andrew Morgan: Heresy in Our Time

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2018

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Rob Bell is a former pastor and the New York Times bestselling author of books including What We Talk About When We Talk About God, What Is the Bible?, and Love Wins. Andrew Morgan is a filmmaker whose works include After the End and The True Cost. In this special episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon speaks with both Andrew and Rob about the new documentary film that they collaborated on—The Heretic. In making this film, Andrew followed Rob over several years as the author challenged deeply held views of conservative (especially evangelical) Christianity and reckoned with some of the most highly charged cultural issues of our time. Here Tami, Rob, and Andrew discuss the evolving role of Christianity in the modern era and what it means to innovate through religion. They speak on heeding one's inner call, as well as why the current revolution in spirituality will be galvanized largely on a local—and even personal—level. Finally, Tami, Andrew, and Rob talk about the connection between pain and the creation of art, and how art can be a force for great societal change. (63 minutes)

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This program is brought to you by sounds true.com.

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At sounds true.com you can find hundreds of downloadable audio

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learning programs, plus books, music, videos, and online courses, and events.

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At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves

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as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

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offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

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Sounds True.com, many voices, one journey. You're listening to Insights at the Edge. Today my guests are Rob Bell and Andrew Morgan.

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Rob Bell is the author of 10 books including the New York Times bestsellers,

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what we talk about when we talk about God. Love wins and

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what is the Bible? He's been profiled in the New Yorker, toured with Oprah, and in 2011 Time magazine named him one of the 100

1:06.7

most influential people in the world. Andrew Morgan is an internationally recognized filmmaker focused on telling stories for a better tomorrow.

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His experience includes a broad range of work that spans narrative and documentary storytelling

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for multiple film and new media projects that have been released all over the world.

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Together Rob Bell and Andrew Morgan over the film

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film bill and Andrew Morgan have created a new film called The Heratock.

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The film follows Rob over several years as he challenges deeply held conservative

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ideals while grappling with some of the most important questions of our time.

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In this episode of Insights at the Edge,

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Rob Andrew and I spoke about spiritual innovation and the ways in which

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Christianity as a religion is being called to innovate in our time.

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We also talked about how a spiritual person can find a sense of community without being part of a formal religion.

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We talked about how Rob lives by following his inner call of aliveness, how he likes to make things, and continues to put awe and wonder

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