The moment she starts talking in a forum like this, it's just all, whatever mystique there was that they built around her, it just evaporates immediately.

She doesn't have a lot of skill, but she definitely is extremely strong at one thing and that is stalling for time.

You notice it's like the verbal equivalent of trying to fill up the word count on a term paper.

It's remarkable.

This is why you find all these clips circulating online of the things she said

four or five six years ago because that's the only way to find out what she actually believes

about anything. That's the four or five years ago is the last time

she ever answered a question.

Yes, really.

And so that's how far back you have to go

to get an actual answer to what you really believe.

And then you know, as always always you compare it to Trump who whatever else

you say about him like he yeah whether you like it or not he's gonna tell you he's

gonna tell you he's gonna ask him any question and he'll give you an answer.

Right. Attention please just to catch a stray's over here.

You're in for a hell of a show.

Keep the faith, hold the line and own the lids.

It's time for our main event.

Well, for our main event.

Welcome back to the ruthless variety program. I am Josh Holmes along with Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook.

There's an empty seat at the end for comfortablyfortably Smug who's fashionably late for our recording today.

More on that later. You may have noticed we brought a big movie star in here today.

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