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Hello and welcome to the Sofa Ridge on Sunday podcast.

We had a blockbuster show this week, Kirstama, Matt Hancock, William Hague and John

McDonald.

We discussed vaccines, the easing of lockdown, schools, Kirstarmer's leadership and Tiari-on-Rue.

We're joined, as usual, on the podcast by Matt Lavender.

Hello, you're OK?

Yeah, I'm OK. Not too bad.

And Toby Scalthorpey Skullthorpe is also here.

Good morning.

It's a slightly strange show this week, isn't it? Where it's the day before the big announcement from Boris Johnson. So we recorded the show on Sunday and on Monday is when

we're expecting to hear from the Prime Minister about lockdown easing. So we spent a lot of time

sort of looking forward to that, didn't we? Yeah, there's always a bit of speculation around these things

and it's quite hard because you know that really you're just waiting

and it feels a little bit like you're in a holding pattern.

I think we got a certain degree of clarity, though,

from Matt Hancock in particular about sort of how the roadmap is going to look.

We're not obviously getting specifics at this stage, but this idea that they're going about sort of how the roadmap is going to look. We're not obviously

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