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Here we are, episode three already in season two.

If you've missed either of the first two episodes,

which were with Victoria Bandi and Carla Cruz Kudoy. Please go check those

out. They're really great listens and today is no exception to that rule.

We are here with Karishma Patel from season 39,

Island of the Idols, and I'm pretty sure that Karishma's experience and what being on Survivor did for her is the most

profound and in-depth life change that we've had on Road to Reality and a lot of these

episodes have shown a lot of change and growth with people and the way Cursman just

takes us through with so much honesty and vulnerability also with so much joy and brightness and

and fun and just a beautiful storytelling and imagery of the life that she lived growing up and it's just incredible.

I won't give away anymore. You'll just have to listen. It was hard for me to cut

hardly any of the interview out. So it is an hour and 40 minutes or so. I

suggest you hang around for the whole thing. Just so you know, Kirishman I have some history. I got to go to her

finale which was so fun as a fan thanks to Ronnie Varda who gave me one of his

finale tickets. Then we played sequester together online during the

pandemic and we've been in the same fantasy football league hosted by

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