Hello, everybody. This is The Reason Interview with Nick Gillespie. And my guest today is Roe Kana. He's a representative, a Democrat from California, who represents Silicon Valley cities like San Jose, Santa Clara, and Cooper Tino. He's known for working across the aisle with people like libertarian Republican Thomas Massey.

They co-sponsored legislation to force a vote on the Iran war as well as pushing to release the Epstein files.

And Representative Kana calls himself a progressive capitalists.

And he's a big Bernie Sanders fan.

We're going to talk about that and what we have as common ground and where there might be some issues about that.

So, Roe Kana, thank you for talking a reason.

Appreciate it.

Thank you for having me on.

Let's start with the Iran War.

You've been outspoken against the Iran War. As I mentioned, you co-sponsored

a war powers resolution, a call for a resolution about Iran with Thomas Massey. What is the biggest

problem you see with the Iran War as it's being prosecuted? It's both a moral and a strategic blunder. It's a strategic

blunder for two reasons. First, we're not making America any safer. We have replaced Comeney with his

son, Comeney Jr. Comeney, at least, had a fatwa against nuclear. Khamenei Jr. does not. If we replaced

Khamenei Jr. by assassinating him, we would have the IRGC, the military, which is even more

heartline. They opposed the JCPOA. And at this point, Iran has leverage with the bombing in the

Strait of Hormuz. When we stop bombing, which we should, along with Israel and Iran, we've actually given Iran

more leverage in any deal that's going to come from it.

So that's-

Yeah, it's kind of amazing that somehow we start this war and then the Strait of Hormuz is gatekeepered or told in a way that it had never been before.

Not going well.

You said recently Trump should just declare victory and get out.

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