Rizzo & Martinez Fired After Getting Swept

Nats Chat

Mark Zuckerman & Al Galdi

Baseball, Sports

4.9 • 574 Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

A few hours after a 6-4 loss to Boston, the Nats fired GM Mike Rizzo & Manager Davey Martinez. Mark & Al react to the major organizational moves as it is truly an end of the an era. Rizzo became the permanent GM in 2009, Martinez became skipper after 2017, and they were the GM/Manager combo for the 2019 World Series championship. (13:15) Mike Rizzo told the Washington Post that he had to "navigate that ownership group for 20 years", which leads little to the imagination. Mike DeBartolo has been elevated from Assistant to interim GM and the managerial position will be addressed on Monday's off-day. (19:00) Rizzo was masterful at trades, but not so much at drafting. (24:45) Would any manager have had positive results with this roster the past few years? This was Davey's first Managerial job and he is by far the longest tenured skipper in team history. (32:20) Ownership uncertainty is front and center in the search for the next GM. Will some qualified candidates shy away from this job? (39:40) Will Rizzo & Martinez get these same positions with other teams in the future? (44:00) Washington begins a six game road trip on Tuesday night in St. Louis after these major changes. Early indications are that the interim manager will either be Miguel Cairo or Matt LeCroy.

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0:00.0	Walters is back for another season as the official bar of the Natschat podcast.
0:05.6	Walters is the best spot to go before and after home games,
0:09.9	located at the southeast corner of Capitol and End Streets, right across the street from the ballpark.
0:19.5	Here's the set. Hicks to Livers, and Abrams swings and drives into the air to left center field.
0:24.6	Moving over as the left fielder. Duran has a play and a couple of steps shy of the warning track in front of the Red Sox bullpen.
0:31.6	He makes the catch and this one is over.
0:34.6	Red Sox come to the nation's capital and wind up with a sweep of this three-game series.
0:41.4	I do want to give the Nats credit, though.
0:43.2	I thought they did a pretty good job against Garrett Crochet.
0:46.1	The Red Sox.
0:46.6	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
0:48.2	Jeff Passon just tweeted that they've fired Rizzo and Martinez.
0:54.8	And welcome to Natsch chat, along with MadisonSports.com, National's insider Mark Zuckerman.
1:00.1	I'm Al-Galdi host of the Al-Galdi podcast. Sunday, July 6, 2025 goes down as an historic day
1:07.5	in Nationals history.
1:08.9	Nat's managing principal owner, Mark Lerner, he on Sunday
1:11.7	night announced having fired. Nats president of baseball operations and general manager Mike Rizzo
1:17.8	and manager Davy Martinez. Rizzo gone, Davy gone. Change that we thought might happen, but not
1:26.3	until after the end of this Nat season, instead
1:29.8	ends up happening before the All-Star break. Truly, the end of an era.
1:35.3	Said Lerner in a statement, quote, on behalf of our family and the Washington National's
1:39.4	organization, I first and foremost want to thank Mike and Davy for their contributions to our
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