Rivers of Blood – How Enoch Powell poisoned Britain
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🗓️ 20 August 2025
⏱️ 82 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome to origin story for another between season bonus episode. I'm Dori Alinsky. |
| 0:16.3 | And I am Ian Dant. So it's quite big one today. We're telling the story of the Rivers of Blood speech delivered by Conservative MP Inok Powell on 20th of April, 1968. |
| 0:24.8 | Probably the most explosive speech in British peacetime history, |
| 0:27.8 | at least during the last hundred years. |
| 0:30.3 | It is still invoked as toxic by anti-racists and increasingly reanimated by right-wing politicians. |
| 0:36.1 | But what did Powell say? Why did he say it? And what were the consequences? So, Ian, Rivers of Blood was obviously huge controversial at the time. But what freaks me out is that people like Robert Jenrick, who before we record has gone even further. It's actually gone beyond Powell, I think. Oh, yeah. By turning up at a far-out protest. They're basically saying the same thing without any damage to their careers. Quite the opposite, in fact. There was a, I think it's a Sam Friedman health warning on that, but I think it was a Sam Friedman piece recently where he was talking about the difference of the way that the Tory leadership has responded to, for instance, the way that Heath responded to Rivers of blood, which I think you'll come to, you know, which is basically ostracizing him and, you know, detaching itself from that kind of rhetoric and the way that the Tory leadership currently behaves when it comes to highly racialized anti-immigration rhetoric, which is fucking go right ahead, mate. Say nothing. No problem with us anymore. So that kind of elite tolerance of this kind of rhetoric is much, we're in a much worse place now than we were all those decades ago. |
| 1:32.7 | And yet in a better place with the public, as we'll see from some of these absolutely hair-racing statistics later. |
| 1:39.0 | So I'm also going to talk a bit about Powell as a character and his influence beyond racism. |
| 1:44.6 | He's a hugely influential figure in conservative politics in all kinds of ways. |
| 1:51.9 | A lot of people find him quite a romantic figure because he consistently chose his principles |
| 1:55.9 | over his career. |
| 1:56.9 | Right. |
| 1:57.9 | Same about the principles, really. |
| 1:58.9 | Well, one is found some principles too. Also, he was quite obnoxious and he didn't really get on with people. |
| 2:04.8 | So it's not as if he had this kind of like brilliant career that he jeopardised just for that. |
| 2:11.2 | Like there are other reasons why he never became conservative leader, as we'll see. |
| 2:15.9 | Now, warning, I'll be using a lot of quotations from Powell and his contemporaries that obviously |
| 2:19.2 | includes racist views. |
| 2:20.5 | There's no like crude racist language, but the views are sometimes grim. |
| 2:26.5 | And yeah, so we shall begin, right? |
| 2:29.3 | Yeah, we should. |
| 2:30.0 | I love the way to warn that there will be racism in a podcast about Enoch Powell. |
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