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Faith Matters

Ritual, Wisdom, and our Divine Mother: Kathryn & Bob Sonntag

Faith Matters

Faith Matters Foundation

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🗓️ 10 May 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Today, as we celebrate our mothers and motherhood, we’re exploring the symbols of our Divine Mother hidden throughout ancient Christianity, and what it might mean for each of us—men and women—to cultivate and integrate divine femininity into our own souls. Our guests are Kathryn and Bob Sonntag, who joined us at Restore last year for a powerful session on ritual, wisdom, and our Divine Mother. Today, we’re bringing that conversation to everyone. Together, we explore where the symbol of the Mo...

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0:34.3

Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters. Today, as we celebrate our mothers and motherhood,

0:40.3

we're exploring the symbols of our divine mother hidden throughout ancient Christianity,

0:44.6

and what it might mean for each of us, both men and women, to cultivate and integrate divine

0:49.5

femininity into our own souls. Our guests today are Catherine and Bob Sontag, who joined us last year at Restore

0:56.0

for a powerful session on ritual and wisdom and our divine mother. And today we're bringing that

1:01.0

conversation to everyone. Together we explore where the symbol of the mother appears in ancient

1:05.8

Christian traditions and grapple honestly with what divine femininity and divine masculinity look like when we strip away

1:12.3

the stereotypes that can become rigid and prescriptive. Catherine says that the feminine is, by its

1:17.4

nature, subtle and hidden, something that has to be cultivated with intention. And when souls or systems

1:23.2

overdevelop the masculine and lose touch with feminine wisdom or vice versa, something essential goes

1:28.9

missing. Neither the masculine nor the feminine can truly flourish without the other. And then we spend

1:34.4

some real time on practical integration. Bob says that ritual is the way that we translate meaning

1:39.8

into action, the way spiritual truths become lived realities. And he says that ritual isn't reserved for temples or holy days, but is available in the texture

1:47.7

of our ordinary lives, in hospitality, shared meals, and the quiet rhythms of each day.

1:53.5

And when we bring intention to these moments, the mundane becomes sacred and the deeper work

1:57.9

of integration and transformation can take root.

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