Hello, everybody. Welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it,

how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee White. And Will Terry cannot join us today. He is on assignment. So Lee take it away. Fill in for him. We have each taught at art

schools. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You'd think I would know his little

schick, but I don't. I don't pay attention to it. Just waiting for your line.

What's your line?

Each week we...

My line is, that's right, Will.

Whatever you just said is right.

Each week we come at you guys with fantastic illustrator interviews or awesome listener

questions.

And sometimes we agree.

Sometimes we argue, but each time you learn something,

brand spanking new. Brand spanking new. Okay, so this, this week we have Joe Sutton, who is a

Ohio-based illustrator. And I am just, I've been following his work for years.

And we've, you know, kept in touch somewhat over, over the years.

But just recently, I was like, this guy we have to have on the podcast.

And you're going to hear why, once you listen to this interview,

because he is so

inspirational and such like a poster child for how to turn, like, how to, like, how to really do,

what would you say, how to do a successful career that doesn't, like, that sort of happens in the, in the background of the periphery?

It's the long game. It's not the long game. It's not the overnight success where somebody submitted one piece of artwork and all of a sudden they're now getting all these calls.

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