Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture, it's wall builders where we're taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical historical

and constitutional perspective. Rick Green here with David and Tim Barton and we got

Ben Carson coming on guys, really cool looking forward to this. This is

super exciting and for those that might not know

because they're living on a rock somewhere they don't know who Ben Garcia is right

but you know in fairness there's people if you've only known Ben Carson

because of the Trump administration, you know, there's a lot of an amazing story that you've been missing out on.

And growing up back 80s, 90ss we had to do a lot of book reports and you know part of our

for our families we were traveling in our van in our van schooling you you know, before it was really homeschooling and

before that became a very cool and trendy thing that it's becoming these days.

One of the books that I remember we had to read was a book called Gifted Hands and it was about this this Christian

doctor the first one to ever successfully separate that Siamese twins conjoined at the head like sharing a brain and this guy

neurobrain surgeon goes in and he is able to take this brain that's conjoined and just piece by piece,

take it apart and part of the story and testimony is

he would go in and he'd spend a couple hours doing it

and he'd go, I don't know if I can do it anymore. And he might take a break somewhere

and as he was taking a break just thinking, maybe praying, you know and I don't know what to do. And then

he'd have an idea of, oh, wait a second, what if I try this? And he'd go back in, and he would try that, and it would work,

and he would go for another hour or two, and he would take a break, and he would go out and think,

man, I don't know what to do, and God kept leading him this whole time,

he was able to separate this brain, like unbelievable

amazing fashion. Well, how did this guy come to be the most successful, one of the, like really should be one of the most revered

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