Rise of the machines – Can we trust A.I. in the military?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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OpenAI’s founders claimed they wanted to build ethical artificial intelligence for the benefit of humanity. So why is it now taking a $200 million contract from the US military? Today in The Bunker, Alex von Tunzelmann is joined by Mariarosaria Taddeo, Professor of Digital Ethics and Defence Technologies at Oxford University, to find out what A.I. means for the future of warfare. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit. www.patreon.com/bunkercast Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social Written and presented by Alex von Tunzelmann. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editors: Dom Delargy. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:44.5	Hello and welcome to The Bunker, News Without the Nonsense.
0:52.4	I'm Alex von Tundselman.
0:53.9	Last month, Generative Artificial
0:55.8	Intelligence Company Open AI won a $200 million contract with the United States military. The company,
1:03.2	led by Sam Altman, confirmed they'll develop prototype AI to address critical national
1:08.2	security challenges in both war fighting and enterprise domains.
1:13.2	Open AI plans to show how their AI can improve admin, ease access to healthcare for veterans and boost cyber defences.
1:20.2	But the use of that word war fighting has raised concerns about how far this might go.
1:26.2	Open AI claims that all use of AI for the military
1:28.5	will be consistent with its usage guidelines, which are determined by Open AI itself.
1:34.3	And if you're now picturing self-directed machines crushing piles of human skulls to dust
1:38.6	at the beginning of the Terminator, you're not alone, I am too. But to look at the integration
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