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The Psychology Podcast

Rise Above with Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman (Interviewed by Dr. Jonathan Haidt)

The Psychology Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Social Sciences, Science

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In a special role-reversal episode of The Psychology Podcast, Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman is interviewed by renowned social psychologist Dr. Jonathan Haidt to discuss Scott’s brand-new book, Rise Above: Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential. This powerful conversation explores how modern culture can reinforce limiting beliefs and emotional fragility, and how we can instead reclaim agency, resilience, and meaning in our lives. Scott opens up about the myths of self-esteem, the emotional toll of victimhood culture, and the surprising strengths that come from sensitivity. Together, Scott and Jonathan unpack the cultural narratives that hold us back and offer practical strategies for developing emotional strength and personal empowerment in an age of anxiety.

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0:00.0

I'm Soledad O'Brien, and on my new true crime podcast, Murder on the Tooth Path,

0:05.3

I'm taking it back to 1964 to the cold case of artist Mary Pinch O'Meyer.

0:11.5

She had been shot twice in the head and in the back.

0:14.8

It turns out Mary was connected to a very powerful man.

0:20.0

I pledge you that we shall neither commit nor provoke aggression.

0:24.4

John F. Kennedy.

0:26.3

Listen to Murder on the Toothatch with Soledat O'Brien on the Iheart Radio app,

0:31.2

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

0:38.4

You feel in this, Too, is a horror anthology podcast.

0:43.8

It brings different creators to tell 10 vile.

0:48.0

No, no, no, no, no.

0:50.3

Grotesque.

0:51.1

Oh my God.

0:52.3

Horrific stories on what scares them the most.

0:56.5

My!

0:58.2

It is.

0:58.7

No question.

1:00.7

You feel in this, too.

1:02.8

Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:09.0

Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker.

1:11.0

I host a podcast called A Slight Change of Plans that combines behavioral science and

1:15.9

storytelling to help us navigate the big changes in our lives.

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