I'm Gail Strav and you're listening to She Explorers.

I kind of started wanting to shift my documentary more towards the outdoor realm and that all happened so slowly you know I just I just

started building it really like film by film but for years you know I never I didn't really like dive into it immediately I kind of looked back and then realized like oh I'm the films that I really love to make are the ones that involve being outdoors.

And those were the ones that were the best

because I think I was most interested in the imagery

of being in nature.

This is Biz Young.

If you've been listening for a while now, you probably know that I love how when we talk about

progress,

whether it's creative, athletic, or interpersonal,

we don't always see its ripple effects

as it's happening.

But when we look back and reflect,

its accumulation is somehow both a surprise and the only possible outcome.

And as we wrap up an exceptionally challenging year,

I'm excited to share some pieces of business progression

as a documentary filmmaker.

Growing up, she went by busy.

Yeah, you can call me Biz.

That's good.

What is it short for?

Is it short for something?

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