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The Dispatch Podcast

Ripping Off the Band-Aid of Title 42

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

"Title 42," the pandemic-era immigration restriction, was slated to expire December 21, until the Supreme Court stepped in. Now, the Biden administration and conservatives are in loggerheads on what to do next. Esther sits down with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, the Policy Director at American Immigration Council to discuss the historical context behind Title 42, its impact on border crossings, and what we might expect if it goes away. Show Notes: -Aaron Reichlin-Melnick’s American Immigration Council (AIC) profile -AIC's Guide to Expulsions at the Border -Docket filings related to the Application for Emergency Stay   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm your host Esther Eaton, I'm deputy editor of the Morning

0:04.4

Dispatch, and on today's episode we are doing an explainer of Title 42, which is a border policy

0:10.3

that's been in use during the pandemic. Talking about what it is, what impact it's had, and what could

0:15.2

happen if and when it goes away. We're talking with Aaron Reiklin Melnick, who is policy director at the

0:20.8

American Immigration Council. He was formerly an immigration lawyer with the Legal Aid Society

0:25.9

in New York City, and he brings just a wealth of knowledge about immigration law.

0:44.6

Thank you Aaron for joining us. Thank you for having me. So we hear about Title 42 a lot, you know,

0:50.2

it's in a lot of headlines right now, but for someone who's just unfamiliar with exactly what it is,

0:56.8

tell me about where it comes from and why it originally got put into place. The most important

1:03.2

thing to understand about Title 42 is that it's not an immigration law, it's a public health law.

1:10.0

It is actually one of the oldest public health laws we have on the books. It was actually first

1:14.8

passed by Congress in 1893, 125 years ago in the era of steamships. And the goal of the law at the

1:23.5

time, most scholars agree, was to give the US government authority to turn away ships in an era of

1:29.5

cholera and yellow fever when the most likely disease vector was a ship or a train coming to the

1:37.2

US border that had to be stopped before anyone was allowed in. This law sat pretty much dormant on

1:43.7

the books for 125 years until March of 2020 when the Trump administration tapped the law and created

1:52.4

the Title 42 policy that we have in effect now. That policy said that migrants were posing a threat

2:00.8

of spreading COVID-19 into the United States and that as a result, US border officials should turn

2:07.2

them away if possible, sending them back to a country that was willing to accept them rather than

2:12.2

allow them into the United States where they can access the asylum process and might have to spend

2:17.2

time in detention facilities at the border. And that is the policy that's been in effect for the

2:22.4

last two and a half years, even though by this point, the threat of migrants introducing COVID-19

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