All right, we're taping this on a Sunday afternoon. We're in Utah. I am here with Chris Ryan. We're

doing some stuff for Sundance and unexpectedly and tragically this is the saddest NBA day ever.

Kobe Bryant passed away helicopter crash. Saw the parentheses when you watch the TV and it says

the Kobe Bryant 1978 to 2020. It's just like, what the hell is going on? I can't other than magic

getting HIV. I can't remember being this shocked by anything that happened in sports and

obviously this is worse because Kobe passed away. But Chris, what do we, where do we even start?

Yeah, I mean, obviously I'm like sick to my stomach over this. It's somebody that I was just

texting with an angry wall to who I do the pie with and he actually put it best. He's like,

we saw his entire life. You know, like he is the definitive player of like my adult life. I watched

him from right when I graduated high school until right when I moved to Los Angeles and it's

even before his NBA career, you had an awareness of him coming into the league. He felt like this

kind of like prodigal figure and it's just it's hard to make sense of. It's hard to make sense of

the loss of life. It's just such a tragic, tragic incident with his daughter and with his daughter's

teammate and their parent on the helicopter. It's just it's so awful. I had the same thought about

a feel like we've known him probably started hearing about him and he was maybe a junior in high school.

And his entire career spanned basically the entire internet and how to intersect with basketball

in all these different ways. But you think like he joins the league in 96. That's right when most

people have a email. Yeah. And then hits all these checkpoints that he's a part of. You're talking

about early internet than you're talking about early days at ESPN.com and all those sites and

then YouTube in 2006 and then Twitter comes and Instagram and he's there every step of the way

and becomes the defining guy of his generation and one of the top 10 players of all time. And I

think you know, obviously I have a four-tunial daughter and that part really hits

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