This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. And we see Inci and he was going, ah, I was a bit loud and a bit like, and it's he went, oh yeah, calm down, you've only won one. You just shut me down, man. And I just thought, rah, he's right. Really, I should have a medal because I did play in it. I played in it that year.

Why is it that you played in earlier rounds, but you don't get a medal?

Yeah, yeah.

So we might have to go to the FA. Yeah, do a little petition at that. I tried to sort of want that. My agent was in London. And at a time, and he said, oh, come and meet me. And as I've walked in, I've seen Peter Kennedy at a table,

and I did immediately go, oh, fuck.

Why is he here?

Nothing was said about Chelsea. You promised real. Bro, I'm telling you, I didn't know what I was walking into. So I'm, listen, if I'm going to go and talk to Pete Kenyon. What was your agent about, if I'm going to talk to Peter Kenyon about Chelsea, do you think I'm going to walk into a restaurant in the West End and talk to Peter Kenyon in the back It's so obvious.

Yeah. to Peter Kenyon about Chelsea, do you think I'm going to walk into a restaurant in the West End and talk to Peter Kenyon in the background. It's so obvious. You could get away with it. Yes, people, what's going on? Adam McCola here for Stretford Paddock. I am with the greatest defender in Premier League history. Real Fernand, six Premier League's, two league cups, a Champions League, Club World Cup as well. Yeah, it was about then as well. And we're here, man. It's been an absolute honour. Real thank you for coming on the channel. I know we're on tour right now, but I don't want to talk about at all. I want to talk about your long, glorious career at Manchester United. So, yeah, where did it all start? How did it start? How did we manage to prize you away from Leeds?

When Sir Alex Ferguson gives you a call, there ain't no answer, but yes. Because yeah, joining you

obviously Leeds and West Ham are massive clubs, but you come to Manchester United and we're seeing

it at times now, like the weight of the shirt does get people down what do you think helped you through that at that time was it the dressing room around you because we look now and it's it's difficult for players to kind of beat themselves and grow especially when there's so much pressure on and there's not many leaders about but you have a dressing room full of them them. But I think it's harder now for these players. The players that are coming to

May Night in the last 12 years, it's harder for them because they're coming into an environment

that isn't geared to win, doesn't know how to win, hasn't got the characters that I walked into.

I had a team that was conditioned and knew what they were doing with their eyes closed.

So that makes it easier for me to come in there and join in.

Whereas players are coming in now and trying to join in

or thinking I've got to pull this team through now on my own.

I was looking to the likes of Roy Keane and Giggs and Bex and Skoles.

You've got players there who've been there,

one five, six Premier League's already at this time. So I'm just following suit. Do I mean? I'm now a follower. I'm a young kid of Sponge. So these kids, the guys who come in there, they got it hard, it's harder for them. But that's what they got to do now. It's different. And what were the training sessions like? like were the testing you at the start?

Yeah, the big money and that.

Because we've heard about you tested a few players once they're coming we were you getting tested at the start well i interviewed gigsy the other day on the podcast and he was a plug yeah the one there's the first of many but no but he was um we were talking it but it's great so that's what i love when i bump into the old teammates because you reminisce about what it was like and the training sessions back

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