Hello and welcome to the TIFO football podcast. I'm Joe Devine. And today we discuss why I say my name in the way that I do. I forgot about that until I was just saying it there. And I'm delighted to be joined today by John McKenzie.

Hello, Joe. And welcome to our audio exclusive episode, Ring for Analysis.

The format of today of Ring for Analysis is this.

I read an article published by The Athletic, and John rings a little bell that sounds like this

when he wants me to stop so he can do some analysis.

Now, we are today covering an article written by,

or two articles actually, one and a half, one and a half articles, written by the athletics

new referee columnist Graham Scott. Graham Scott, of course, refereed in the Premier League

for a decade before retiring in 2025 to return to his previous career as a journalist.

He was a video assistant referee more than a hundred times and brings a unique insight into

how officials operate both on the pitch and in the video booth. And the one and a half articles

that I am referring to here, the first is an article called Graham Scott from being chased

by Jesse Marino to becoming a referee columnist for the athletic. It's a kind of why I've joined who I am,

what I'm doing. It's a bit of an introduction to who he is. And then we go through in full his first

column, which is titled, Why Referees Hate VAR just as much as you do. So, John, what points did we hit on today? We touched on everything today, didn't we? We did. Everything about refereeing. We talked a little bit about the difficulty of making subjective decisions in the moment. Yes. We talked about, what else did we talk about? You did a quiz for me? I did. I did. I did. I did.

What was that?

I can't remember.

It was a long time ago.

Name the referee or the inventor who died as a result of their own invention. Yes. Is this person a referee or an inventor that died as a result of their own invention? That was quite good fun. It's quite hard, isn't it, when Steve Hanky's not here

to capture all of the things that we've said,

many of which there were.

We talked a lot about VAR But it's quite hard, isn't it, when Steve Hanky's not here to capture all of the things that we've said, many of which there were.

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