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I'm going to have her join us. She's also out there speaking on campuses across the country

as an advocate for women in sports to have it just be women in sports. Actually, I think

is one way we could put it. Um, Riley, thank you so much for being here with us. Uh,

first of what was the event that you were the best in the country at just so I was it

butterfly or backstroke? I don't know. I do doggy paddle. I'm not good at this.

Well, if I just swim now, I would do doggy paddle. Um, but it was actually the 200 freestyle

where I tied Thomas. Wow. Okay. So just tell everybody how you got into this. Some

of the folks are at home and listening are going to know, but for those who could use

a refresher who don't know what was the situation that you faced in the NC double a final.

Absolutely. Um, so the first day of competition at our incibly championships, and this was

last year in 2022. Um, that first day, that was the day that I didn't compete. And so this

was the 500 freestyle. And I sat on the side of the pool and watched as Thomas swam to a

national title, um, beating out Olympians, beating out American record holders. And when I say

Thomas, I should clarify, this is Leah Thomas, who was formerly Will Thomas who swam three

years on the men's team at University of Pennsylvania before deciding to switch to the women's

team. Um, at best, amongst the men the year before was ranked 460 second. Um, so watching

Thomas now beat all of the women in the country by multiple seconds. Obviously it's unfair.

Obviously it's wrong. Anyone with a brain can see this. Um, so that second day of competition

was the day that Thomas and I race against each other in the 200 freestyle to it's ultimately

resulted in a tie. Um, we went the exact same time down to the 100th of a second. And so

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