RIHANNA PT. 1 (with Julianne Escobedo Shepherd)
Pop Pantheon
DJ Louie XIV
4.7 • 630 Ratings
🗓️ 2 December 2021
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Summary
Former Editor in Chief of Jezebel and famed author of The Rihanna RihPort, Julianne Escobedo Shepherd, joins DJ Louie for part one of a two-part discussion about one of the biggest and most dynamic pop icons of the 21st Century, Rihanna. Louie and Julianne get into detail about what exactly the ethereal "Rihanna Thing" is and what allows her to be so versatile with genre before discussing the state of pop and R&B prior to her emergence in 2005 and breaking down the dancehall and reggaeton explosion of the mid-aughts. They then trace Rihanna's discovery by Evan Rogers, her famed audition for Jay-Z, her breakthrough smash with "Pon De Replay", and how her artistry and persona came into full-form on her second and third albums, 2006's A Girl Like Me and 2007's Good Girl Gone Bad. Louie and Julianne dive into Rihanna's penchant for songs about love as tragedy, why her voice was distinctly suited to deliver on the promise of "Umbrella" and what makes it so instantly addictive and recognizable, how she began to establish her singular personal style, the abuse she faced at the hands of then-boyfriend Chris Brown, and the ways she dealt with that on her fourth studio album, 2009's hip hop, rock, and dubstep-inflected Rated R.
Join us in two weeks for part two of this discussion, where Louie and Julianne cover the second half of Rihanna's career, rank all of her albums, and debate whether she belongs in Tier 1 of the Pop Pantheon!
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pop Pantheon, the podcast where we completely overanalyze the music, legacy, and cultural impact of all your favorite pop stars. |
| 0:19.3 | I'm your host, DJ Louis X. Louisth, and I'm a DJ, writer, |
| 0:23.1 | and all-around pop music fanatic. I've spent my entire life and career thinking about, |
| 0:27.8 | dissecting, and being obsessed with pop stars. Their music, their legacies, how they relate to one |
| 0:33.1 | another, to the larger pop musical landscape, and to culture more broadly. What separates an icon from a mere superstar? |
| 0:39.8 | Why does some careers become the soundtrack to our lives, and why do others flop? |
| 0:44.7 | Whose work in legacy transcends time, and whose feel stuck in it? |
| 0:48.4 | Every episode of Pop Pantheon, we'll devote an entire episode to a pop icon, |
| 0:53.0 | from Titans of the Genre like Beyonce and all the way down to |
| 0:56.3 | lesser Titans, like Nicole Scherzinger. Each episode, you'll hear a little breakdown from me, |
| 1:03.1 | and then some distinguished guests and I will chop it up about their careers, discographies, |
| 1:07.5 | public personas, live performances, music videos, feuds, tweets, you name it. And at the end, |
| 1:13.6 | we'll turn pop into fantasy football, make our final judgment, and place them in the official |
| 1:18.4 | pop pantheon. Welcome back to Pop Pantheon. This is your boy, DJ Louis, of course. Thank you so much |
| 1:26.1 | for being here. I know we've got a bunch of new listeners in the house. |
| 1:29.9 | Thank you for listening. |
| 1:31.2 | I hope you're enjoying the podcast. |
| 1:33.6 | As always, please follow me on Twitter at DJ, L-O-U-I-E-X-I-V, and on Instagram, same |
| 1:40.4 | handle. |
| 1:41.4 | Please follow Pop Pantheon Pod on Instagram. |
| 1:44.8 | If you have questions about the podcast, about Pop, about One Direction, about Charlie |
| 1:49.6 | XX, about Rihanna, please send them all to Pop Pantheon Pod at gmail.com, and I will answer |
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