The nationalists have just taken a major victory in Europe.

Marine Le Pen, right wing nationalist in France, is now the biggest party.

That's my understanding. It's complicated.

Because it's the European elections, the EU.

It's not national level.

But also, Italy's Selvini has surged in the European elections.

And as you know, the Brexit party is, my understanding is the Brexit party was the biggest winner in the elections.

So, a lot of right wing nationalists,

but the other thing is, is that the Greens, the far left, actually made serious gains.

What does this say?

Well, look, the right wing nationalist stuff was always predictable with Trump, with Brexit, Australia, India, etc.

We're seeing this rise of nationalism sweep across.

Well, the world now, it seems.

The Greens, we didn't expect as much.

But this has one thing to me, polarization.

They say on Sky News that the center, the center is fragmenting.

That's pretty bad news, okay?

Look, it's one thing if you think it's good your side is winning.

It's another thing when we see political polarization to both extremes,

because where is this going to bring us?

Actual conflict.

You know, when you have a center left and center right,

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