Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein. Man, you're at the Bullock, and I'm here with Will Summer, and we are going to be talking about Minnesota, Trump's efforts at a recalibration and how it's playing with the MAGA Media crowd before we get into it, subscribe to our feed.

So I don't have to tell you at the end of this podcast to subscribe. You should just subscribe now, even if it means leaving the podcast, go, go subscribe. All right. Well, basically, last 24 hours has been very interesting. So you have

clear indications from the White House that they want distance from what happened with the

Alex Pready murder, that they feel like Trump's got at least moderate a little bit. And he's tried.

He put Tom Homan in there. Tom Homan's talking to Governor Walls, Mayor Fry.

But the MAGA media crowd is not having it. So what is your kind of 30,000 foot assessment

of how this is playing? I mean, I think there's this reaction. I mean,

you know, it's crazy they're getting upset over this like supposed moderation because it's like

the moderate option is Tom Homan and maybe not Greg Bovino. But they are. I mean, there we saw

on Monday night there was this kind of revolt in right-wing media, particularly among these kind of

Twitter personalities who bounce around to different cities when there's a hotspot. And they were saying,

you know, they're going to, you know, take Bovino's, you know, commander at large position, or they're

going to, they're going to punish Bovino for enforcing the law. And so we're seeing this backlash,

I think, and this

idea that there's kind of this clash between people who see deportations and like this mass

deportation and really like this very cruel way in which it's carried out as kind of the keystone

of the Trump agenda and the most important thing. And then other people who are saying,

well, geez, do we really want to sink everything else we want to get done over this? Well, isn't it more that

they just think any sort of moderation or compromise or attempts to bad a political pressure

is an inherent sign of weakness. And they control all levers of government and they, you know,

they should just do what

they want. I mean, I think that's definitely part of it. I mean, there's the sense that, you know,

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