Welcome back to the podcast, bribes, windle, or steel. I'm Alexandra Ragi, and today we're

talking about discriminatory practices in housing and the work that the National Fair Housing

Alliance, the NFHA, does to ensure equal housing opportunities for everyone. My guest for this

episode is Lisa Rice. Lisa is the president and CEO of the National Fair Housing Alliance and a

leader in this field. Prior to her work with NFHA, Lisa played a major role crafting sections

of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act,

known to many of our listeners, simply as Dodd-Frank. And she helped to establish the Office of Fair

Lending within the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Lisa, this is a real pleasure. I've been

looking forward to having you on the podcast for a while, but we had a presidential tweet today.

So in addition to the things that we had

planned to talk about, I'd also really be very grateful if you could talk a little bit about the

impact of the president's Twitter-based rescission of the AFF, the affirmatively furthering

fair housing provision of the FHA. But why do we start

with a little bit of historical context to bring our listeners up to speed? In the United States,

black people were essentially brought to this country as a means of economic support for white people.

And that's something that we don't like to talk about.

It's a troubling part of our past, but it is an important part of our history if we're

to understand really where we sit today and why we are facing the challenges that we're

facing today.

Purpose of black people for being brought here was to make white people wealthy.

All of our laws were designed to make this happen.

The slave codes, the black codes.

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