The The Hello and welcome to Backlisted, the podcast that gives new life to old books.

You find us once again in the sunny, well it wasn't sunny last year,

but you find us once again at the Port Elliot Festival.

Or should I say, lay off your grueling and smiling,

you be at the good show,

pot tell you it.

And this be the watcher,

for the Governor's Symposium,

call it Backway Batlisted.

I'm John Mitchinson, the publisher of Unbam

the website where readers crowd-fund the books

they really want to read.

And I'm Andy Muir, I'm the author of the year of reading dangerously, and joining us today, we have

Max Porter. Max is a writer, editor and former bookseller whose first novel grief is the thing with

feathers was a bestseller and winner of several prizes.

It has been translated into 27 languages.

29, but-

Oh, wow.

Sorry, Max.

His new novel, Lanny has just appeared on the long list for this year's Booker Prize.

And Max is a novelist and poet with interests in language and landscape, and that's related to the book that we're going to talk about today.

We're also joined today by Una is a New York Times best-selling author of more than a dozen science fiction novels

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