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No new pod today, we will be back live on Wednesday.

Why? Well, shit happens sometimes.

So our stuff happens, I'm sorry.

The pod will be back live on Wednesday with a special guest.

For today, we decided to give you a pod that there are some people that might not have been

around when this one happened, or it is a really good lesson if you don't remember it.

Tony Roten obviously legend, my favorite player, one of our favorite players of the entire process,

Ira. We harassed him on Twitter into coming in. Obviously, he was three hours behind us,

and it was in the morning and it was during the summer. So I think he was in Seattle.

So he sounds really, really asleep during the whole thing, especially in the beginning,

but he is great and gave us really every answer we wanted.

So an extended interview with Tony Roten for your Monday.

Before we get going, another thing about kinetic, I got a t-shirt I had ordered the other day

from kinetic with the gorilla on it, and I got to give Ben a kinetic credit.

It is a 100% cotton shirt, which I normally don't really approve of, but it is very soft and

stretchy, which I like as well. So it's a next level shirt, which is a really good shirt.

So credit to Ben. Kinetic has tons of stuff that you like. Even I don't skateboard.

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