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It's the goat. R.C., welcome, buddy. Well, thanks for having me on, Ping. It's great to,

it's great to chat with you. I'm looking forward to this, and, you know, some of your followers

may have never, may have never heard you and I banter and talk and, and see our views. And so I'm like,

when I had the opportunity to come on and chat with you,

I'm like, hell yeah, I think you're a good dude. And I was really looking forward to it,

brother. Isn't it, it's funny how fast we get old, right? Like, it is, it won't be long. And

you're kind of in rare air. There's a handful of you guys that'll

always be known like you and Jeremy and, you know, but you can have a guy like, and I'll use

Damon Bradshaw, Jeff Matasovich, these guys who are legends in our sport. Danny Magoo Chandler,

the Lawrence's were not even born when those guys, you know, long until after

they were done racing, and they don't know who they are. Dude, trust me, it's crazy that you say

that because I think of that kind of stuff the same way. And like when I'm at the races and if I go

into the paddock area and I see these, you know, these gentlemen or ladies that

grew up in our era that are our age and they have younger kids. I mean, hell, even it's, it's,

it's people younger than you and I by, by a decade. And they're like, dude, I was massive fans. Watch

you and Bubba and Chad and and was a massive fan and they're like, dude, I was massive fans, watch you and Bubba and Chad and

was a massive fan and they got like a toddler with them. Like, you're, you're my son's

favorite writer. I'm like, dude, they weren't even a lot. They weren't alive 10 years after I was

done racing. But it is, I tell you, it's put stuff in the perspective. And you know this

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