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I'm your host, Harry Littman.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another one-on-one on Talking Fed's. It falls to us now to do

several tasks in the wake of Donald Trump's electoral victory, to use the law to preserve

inroads and judgments of the last few years, to use the law to preserve inroads and judgments of the last few years, to use the tools

of history, to try to get a sense of what happened, a process that could take decades,

and to use the tools of politics to try to do our best to stave off the possibility of autocracy that seemed so looming

in the prospect that's now been realized of his coming to power again. And no one better to

talk about these joint tasks, especially the current political challenge, than Rick Wilson,

a renowned political strategist, ad maker, writer, speaker, political commentator.

He, of course, is the co-founder of the Lincoln Project, author of two New York Times bestsellers,

but he has most famously in the last few years really poured

his heart and soul and considerable political skill and experience into the effort to keep Donald

Trump from returning to power, which makes last Tuesday, as for many of us, a day of real personal

sting. I was really eager to be able to talk to him

in the wake of where things stand a week out and the election itself. And he's here.

Rick Wilson, thanks so much for joining. Hey, Harry. Thanks for having me on. All right, I'd like this

to be more about what is to be done

than what went wrong, but they are connected. Let's focus on what we know in retrospect and

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