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Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast

Rick Wilson & Brad Meltzer

Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast

iHeartPodcasts

Politics, News

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

The Lincoln Project’s Rick Wilson examines Trump’s insane takeover of Venezuela.
Then author Brad Meltzer details his new book The Viper.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.6

Hi, I'm Molly JongFast, and this is Fast Politics, where we discuss the top political headlines with some of today's best minds.

0:13.2

We're almost back from vacation, but we have some new material, too.

0:17.8

Author Brad Meltzer stops by to talk about his new book.

0:21.4

But first, we have the Lincoln Project Zone, Rick Wilson, and he is here to discuss Trump's insane takeover of Venezuela.

0:29.5

Rick Wilson.

0:30.9

Molly Jongfast.

0:32.3

War.

0:33.1

What is it good for?

0:35.6

Well, it's good for Little Marco to have the viceroy ship of Caracas and to apparently pay off one of Marco's largest donors who's in this, apparently in this deal to own all the oil fields out there.

0:50.8

So what shocks you about this? It should be nothing. Okay. So let's talk about this.

0:58.7

Saturday morning right after New Year's, it is a sleeping morning. We wake up to find that Donald

1:05.6

Trump has kidnapped the president. And it's a kidnapping, right? Because even though, I mean, it's basically

1:12.4

a kidnapping, you tend not to be okay to kidnap foreign leaders and their wives and take them.

1:19.4

You know, we do it so rarely and it happens so rarely in the world. We've done it before, though.

1:26.0

Yeah, we have. But Noriega was a, although they pretend it's the same deal,

1:31.1

Noriega was actually a different deal because there was a treaty obligation in Panama, long story short.

1:35.9

Right.

1:37.1

Panama's different.

1:38.3

Here's something we know at this point in the game.

1:41.0

Snatching a foreign leader should not surprise anybody we can do it. We have

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