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The Bulwark Podcast

Rick Wilson and David Brooks: MAGA to the Max

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary

4.611.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Trump's appointments—like degenerate Matt Gaetz and Putin stooge Tulsi Gabbard—are about his raw power and his stupid show, but are also a risk to our nation's security and institutions. Plus, America's diploma divide has trapped us in a caste society, where future leaders are being chosen based on how they performed on standardized tests at age 18.

David Brooks and Rick Wilson join Tim Miller.

show notes
Ed Whelan on Trump's recess appointment scheme (gifted)
David's cover story on the Ivy League (gifted)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullock podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. I had a big think

0:13.3

podcast plan for today with David Brooks about the meritocracy. And we're still going to do some of that in segment two.

0:21.8

But, you know, the news intervened and we were reminded that there is no big thinking in Donald Trump's cacistocracy of only raw power and absurdity.

0:31.8

And so I turned to the man that would be helpful on that topic.

0:34.8

He's the co-founder of the Lincoln Project, host of the podcast, The Enemy's List,

0:38.3

and also writes at Rick Wilson's substack.

0:40.4

It's Rick Wilson.

0:42.3

Yeah, the enemies list.

0:43.7

The Attorney General is going to happen, it seems like.

0:46.4

Yeah, look, I mean, here's the real talk.

0:48.8

And I think a lot of people need to reflect on this because most Americans came to be aware

0:53.7

of Matt Gates when he entered Congress.

0:55.2

But, you know, folks like me, I've known Matt Gates since his dad was the state Senate president

1:00.0

in Florida many, many years ago in my misspent youth.

1:02.9

Same.

1:03.5

And Matt, Matt, Matt's a degenerate.

1:06.7

Matt's a bad guy.

1:08.0

And a lot of people think, oh, he's that crazy smart ass on Fox. He's just one of those crazy Republicans now. Matt's a bad guy. And a lot of people think, oh, he's that crazy smart ass on Fox. He's just one of those crazy Republicans now. Matt's a bad guy. He's a dark figure. Matt could not get, he could not pass the security clearance to run a waffle house, which is why Trump is about to make him the chief law enforcement officer of the United States of America, most likely in a recess appointment because he cannot be appointed appropriately.

1:31.0

Even in the compliant Senate that Trump will have, he can't get this guy through.

1:37.1

So as Tim, you and I and many, many other people have been banging the drum for years saying,

1:41.7

it's going to be much worse than you think.

1:43.7

It's much worse than

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