and outpouring of support for the life of deputy John Durham 93 WIBC. It is the Kindle and Casey show. I'm Rob Casey's out today. Jerry Lopez in for Casey. We'll get to that in just a moment. But first, let's head to the drive hubler.com hotline joined by our good friend Rick Snyder, the head of Indie FOP as yesterday, people all across the city of Indianapolis, pay tribute to the life of former Marion County Sheriff's deputy John Durham, who was tragically killed. Rick, be curious to get your

thoughts on that outpouring of support across the city, across communities throughout Indianapolis for the life of a beloved sheriff's deputy. Well, it's a great reminder of the sacrifice that was made. It also places us. Back into the situation where. Our officers in the law enforcement community, not just in Indianapolis, but throughout Indiana and quite frankly from around the nation are able to see that level of support from the community as they come out and wrap their arms around us. Again, I always

point this out. These are opportunities for us to remember and reflect, but I think also recommit ourselves to this relationship that we must have amongst one another to help care for one another and build upon those relationships, not just in times of tragedy, but in all times when our officers are out there standing for our communities.

When did the relationship, let's just specifically talk about Indianapolis because that's where this took place. When did the relationship with the politicians and the law enforcement goes sideways because the people have always I think as a collective loved law enforcement respected law enforcement, but man, there is just a terrible relationship between law enforcement and the politicians in many cities across the country, certainly here in Indianapolis. Why did that happen because it doesn't reflect where the people are?

Well, it's a very key point that you make. I say this all the time. It's our officers and the residents in our community that are in the neighborhoods 24 hours a day. The politicians are not.

It's our officers and the residents who have the most in common because they literally have the most skin in the game as it comes to violent crime and crime in general in our neighborhoods. The politicians do not.

Yet it's the politicians that drive a wedge between the residents and the police get them to point fingers at one another and then the politicians use that to then leverage their own political agenda.

It's pretty sick and twisted when you think about it, but yet we can prove it to you time and time again in major cities across this city.

Across this country, the very specific and deliberate steps that are taking to do that. Now in Indianapolis, I can tell you when it occurred, right? It definitely occurred as we entered into 2020.

But where the real shift occurred is where we had a change in prosecutor went to a prosecutor who was more focused on telling you what crime he would not prosecute versus the ones that he would.

And when that happened, it started to really kneecap our officers in terms of relationships with the community because the community sees the officers who are the most visible representation of government.

They're the ones that come out. They make the arrest, the intervene and the crime that's occurring in the immediate aftermath.

But then they also see that violent offender get cycled right back into the neighborhood because of a revolving door of a criminal justice system because of a prosecutor who advocates more for the criminals than for the victims.

And when they see that violent offender come back into the neighborhood, who do you think they blame? They don't see the prosecutors. They don't see the courts.

They see those uniformed officers and they think they played a role in that. Well, that debilitates trust and respect between residents and the police.

And it helps breed this sentiment. But I think again, when you see these tragic events occur, you see what residents really believe, you know, for 2020, we spent the entire year hearing about what lives matter.

But what I could tell you is that when three out of every four homicide victims in Indianapolis are our fellow black neighbors, the one thing that I can assure you of is folks in the neighborhoods don't want less police.

They want more police and they would beg and they still do bad guys. Don't leave. Don't give up. Don't stop doing what you're doing.

I think by now in 2023, residents are starting to get hit to what the real situation is. They saw an Indianapolis. We have a prosecutor where the entire law enforcement community voted no confidence in him.

And then just recently, quite frankly, your mayor showed no confidence in this prosecutor when he sought federal help from the federal prosecutor, specifically for crimes with guns.

And then now you see that the mayor is spending taxpayer money to hire three more city prosecutors, city attorneys to go and work with the federal prosecutor and not the local prosecutor.

I think that clearly shows what is going on in the mayor specifically said for the first time publicly, he was doing it to bypass the quote unquote revolving door criminal justice in Mary County.

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