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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Rick Owens on Drawing Inspiration From Imperfection

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The American designer speaks with BoF editor-at-large Tim Blanks about his latest collection, born from ‘anger and darkness,’ and why limitations often make way for creative ingenuity.

 

The location of Rick Owens latest show is a reflection of the ongoing sense of global loss as the death toll from Covid-19 continues to rise. The designer’s new men’s collection was presented at Tempio Votivo, a shrine to the fallen soldiers of the two world wars. The collection, Owens tells BoF editor-at-large Tim Blanks, was born out of “anger and darkness,” despite a fresh sense of optimism brought about by Joe Biden’s recent inauguration.In the latest episode of The BoF Podcast, Owens and Blanks discuss the many references that informed the American designer’s new collection and why imperfection is central to his pursuit of creativity.
  • The show, although full of music and models, was without a live audience, a move that turned the presentation into “personal ritual,” Owens said. “We are doing it for ourselves… Some of the people [I’m working with] have been with me for 18 years. For us to be able to nurture and develop the collection to this point together, we’ve never fully done that before. It’s been this great bonding exercise.”
  • For Owens, lockdown life has not deviated far from his pre-pandemic routine. “I don’t participate or circulate in the world as much as most people do,” he said. But the social restrictions have reminded him that limitations can be central to creative ingenuity. “I like the idea of working within small boundaries,” he told Blanks. “I like the idea of doing the best with what you’ve got.”
  • References for Owens’ work include the Bible, the Rocky Horror Show and S&M, as well as his own imperfections and personal experience of manhood. “My men’s runway shows are always about men’s flaws, and about men’s worst urges because they’re autobiographical,” he said. “When I’m thinking about men, I’m thinking about my own experience. And my own experience is very critical.”
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0:00.0

One of the things that is the most delicious to me when something is raw and primitive and executed in elegant, precise lines.

0:10.0

And that's what I've been trying to do all my life.

0:14.0

What do you think frightens you?

0:16.0

Well, in precision, probably. I want everything as precise as possible. I want organization. I want control.

0:24.4

Everybody wants control. And I recognize that it's kind of a useless pursuit. But while I'm here,

0:30.0

I am going to be controlled or control everything about me as much as I can.

0:39.7

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion, and welcome to the

0:44.6

BOWF podcast. Men's Fashion Month has just concluded, but you wouldn't know it by looking

0:50.1

around the lockdown cities of Paris and London and Milan, where designers would have normally

0:55.5

been showing their collections to the wider industry. This month, they were all relegated to

1:00.4

showing their collections virtually again. But one of my favorite things about Fashion Month

1:05.2

has been to eavesdrop on the conversation between our editor-at-large, Tim Blanks, and the designer Rick Owens.

1:12.5

So we thought maybe we could share a little bit of one of those conversations with you,

1:16.7

because Tim's been going about reviewing collections as normal and interviewing designers via Zoom.

1:22.4

Today we have a very special conversation between Tim and the designer Rick Owens, who always has the most

1:29.5

fascinating perspectives to share on everything that's happening in the world.

1:33.0

So here's Tim Blanks and Rick Owens inside fashion.

1:42.5

I meant to be zooming from such a much more picturesque place,

1:50.2

but this is the only place I could get internet.

1:52.7

I'm in a rectory.

1:54.4

Oh, really?

1:56.5

We're doing the show for out of the rectory.

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