Rick Doblin

The Forward

Lance Armstrong

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🗓️ 30 January 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Rick Doblin, Ph.D., founder and executive director of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, joins Lance to discuss the use of psychedelic-assisted therapy to treat PTSD. They also discuss the policies surrounding psychedelics, the future of psychedelic-assisted therapy, and how Rick raised a wolf when he was 21 years old.

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0:00.0	All right, everybody. Welcome back to the forward podcast. I know, I know it's been a minute.
0:10.4	I've been slacken. But my guest today, Dr. Rick Doblin, is somebody that, and Rick, you
0:17.1	don't know this, but I've been following your story for many, many years. And I want
0:21.0	to get into why this conversation has been on my mind for years now. And just a spoiler
0:29.4	I mean, it really has to do with tenacity and perseverance and endurance. I mean, you have,
0:35.6	you have lasted the test of time, but it's a fascinating story. And so I've been,
0:41.8	I know we talked earlier about some mutual friends we have. You haven't known this,
0:45.4	but I have been such an admirer of yours over the years. And so I'm super excited to talk
0:52.1	about your, your, your great work in my view and certainly controversial work in some others
0:58.9	view. But I've really admired your path. And it's, it's just great to be here. Just for the listener
1:05.6	and, and viewer at home, Dr. Doblin founded what, and we can all look this up and, and send it out
1:12.2	to folks. But his organization is called Maps. That stands for the Multidisciplinary Association
1:17.4	of Psychedelic Studies, which we all know how that sort of resonates in people's,
1:26.8	and a lot of people's minds. But the work is, is just wildly important. But before we get into
1:32.5	the work, I want to have a little fun if, if I can, Rick. I was talking to our mutual friend
1:38.2	earlier and, and in all my research, I never, I, I couldn't come across this story. And so I thought,
1:45.6	well, hell, I'll just, I'll ask him about it. And so our, our friend was telling me you got to
1:49.5	ask him about when he was in college. And the, the, he saw a sign or a brochure or something about
1:58.0	the, this idea of adopting a wolf pup. Oh gosh, that's a great story. Thank you for bringing that up.
2:06.8	Well, and I just, you know, I'm not sure that I would have fallen for that. So I have to hear
2:11.4	what your logic was in adopting a wolf pup. Wow. Well, I love this story. So, you know, I have learned
2:19.5	a enormous amount in my life from psychedelics. But some of the most important lessons I've ever
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